Episode 532: A Meandering Conversation That Starts With Fear and Ends With a Walled City Posted on August 7, 2022 by st-blubrry Jason Chats with Rob Bergstrom https://media.blubrry.com/btgpodcast/content.blubrry.com/btgpodcast/Episode532-A_Meandering_Conversation_That_Starts_With_Fear_and_Ends_With_a_Walled_City.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download
